{"id":5577,"date":"2017-08-11T13:03:50","date_gmt":"2017-08-11T13:03:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/historiografija.hr\/?p=5577"},"modified":"2017-08-11T13:24:20","modified_gmt":"2017-08-11T13:24:20","slug":"povjesnicar-e-p-thompson-o-nastojanju-za-spasavanjem-zastarjelog-tkalca-od-silne-arogancije-potomaka","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/historiografija.hr\/?p=5577","title":{"rendered":"Povjesni\u010dar E.P. Thompson o nastojanju za spa\u0161avanjem \u201czastarjelog\u201d tkalca od silne arogancije potomaka"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Imaju\u0107i u vidu pri\u010du iz prethodne obavijesti o posljednjim zagreba\u010dkim klobu\u010darima, u nastavku donosimo poznati uvodni odlomak knjizi \u201cStvaranje engleske radni\u010dke klase\u201d va\u017enog povjesni\u010dara Thompsona o izumiru\u0107im zanatima i ljudima koji su ih \u010dinili.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E.P. Thompson<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>The Making of the English Working Class<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>1963<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>PREFACE<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>My quarrel with the third is that it reads history in the light of subsequent preoccupations, and not as in fact it occurred. Only the successful (in the sense of those whose aspirations anticipated subsequent evolution) are remembered. The blind alleys, the lost causes, and the losers themselves are forgotten.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>I am seeking to rescue the poor stockinger, the Luddite cropper, the &#8220;obsolete&#8221; hand-loom weaver, the &#8220;utopian&#8221; artisan, and even the deluded follower of Joanna Southcott, from the enormous condescension of posterity. Their crafts and traditions may have been dying. Their hostility to the new industrialism may have been backward-looking. Their communitarian ideals may have been fantasies. Their insurrectionary conspiracies may have been foolhardy. But they lived through these times of acute social disturbance, and we did not. Their aspirations were valid in terms of their own experience; and, if they were casualties of history, they remain, condemned in their own lives, as casualties.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;] (pp. 12-13)<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>George G. Iggers, <em>Istorijska nauka u 20. veku<\/em>, Beograd 2014, str. 76:<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIstovremeno, Tompson posmatra \u017eivot svake jedinke kao istorijski vredan i prigovara protiv shvatanja da se \u201cistorija interpretira u svetlu potonjih interesa a ne onako kako se ona stvarno dogodila\u201d. Umesto toga, pi\u0161e Tompson, \u201cpoku\u0161avam da spasim siroma\u0161nu pletilju \u010darapa, ludisti\u010dkog suknara, &#8216;zastarelog&#8217; ru\u010dnog tka\u010da, &#8216;utopijskog&#8217; zanatliju kao i zaslepljenog pristalicu D\u017eoane Sautkot, od silne arogancije potomaka\u201d iako je \u201cnjihovo neprijateljstvo prema novom industrijalizmu mo\u017eda bilo nazadno\u201d.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>U navedenoj knjizi Iggers razmjerno mnogo pi\u0161e o Thompsonu. Vi\u0161e o Iggersovoj knjizi:<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"ZMr9IbWuRC\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/historiografija.hr\/?p=1979\">Filip \u0160imetin \u0160egvi\u0107 &#8211; Mogu\u0107i presjeci suvremenih historiografskih tendencija:  povodom objavljivanja va\u017enih izdanja posve\u0107enih povijesti historiografije i teoriji povijesne znanosti<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);\" title=\"&#8220;Filip \u0160imetin \u0160egvi\u0107 &#8211; Mogu\u0107i presjeci suvremenih historiografskih tendencija:  povodom objavljivanja va\u017enih izdanja posve\u0107enih povijesti historiografije i teoriji povijesne znanosti&#8221; &#8212; Historiografija.hr\" src=\"https:\/\/historiografija.hr\/?p=1979&#038;embed=true#?secret=ZMr9IbWuRC\" data-secret=\"ZMr9IbWuRC\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"DAzJFc5H5O\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/historiografija.hr\/?p=5585\">Mihaela Mari\u0107 &#8211; prikaz knjige &#8211; George G. 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